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kcarring
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Canada
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Posted - October 25 2012 :  00:52:51  Show Profile Send kcarring a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was looking at this video, and i was thinking, are there small batteries located where the neo is glued to the coil. I mean it certainly is not hard to imagine it "not working" thats for sure lol. Then i thought... if there are two batteries, each oriented opposite, inside the glued sections, the neo would then form a series buss bar, BUT, the main coil MUST be isolated in the middle. I suppose that is doable though... pretty cool trick tho :P



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Anothercoilgun
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Posted - October 25 2012 :  02:58:34  Show Profile Send Anothercoilgun a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If considered making a series of how to fake these devices just to wake people up. Then thought, screw it let them fall for whatever they fall for. I know off the back 3 ways to pull this off.

1. A simple inductance coil BEHIND the camera. Good for tricking not on site audience.
2. A smaller motor with battery placed inside a larger motor. The pickup coil serves as a switch.
3. Zoom in close, a.k.a, pan away, this one always works.

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Magneticitist
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USA
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Posted - October 26 2012 :  13:48:31  Show Profile  Visit Magneticitist's Homepage Send Magneticitist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
lol yea i would have to agree the motor housing was opened and replaced with a smaller motor, along with a small battery. the two terminals are really just the positive terminal, which when shorted closes the circuit to the battery.

plus, why record it the way he did? if you really were trying to prove it to people you would show the unloaded voltage as well as the loaded voltage, give it a decent run time while monitoring the voltage, then open the motor afterwards. also you would step back to prove there are no nearby transmitting coils.

as far as the voltage reading across the coil being an unloaded 5v or so, you would assume it would drop with a load significantly. so.. why not just power some LEDs or something more straightforward? or a much smaller motor? or simply put it on an ammeter?


plus, this other device he made was obviously so fake i guess he wanted a more convincing trick.

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ron_o
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United Kingdom
1052 Posts

Posted - October 27 2012 :  15:24:01  Show Profile Send ron_o a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Magneticitist

Just watched the video

I would agree with your comments 100 % , he might also have had a coulpe of "button" cells built into the meter probes ?

ron
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kcarring
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Canada
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Posted - October 27 2012 :  19:42:29  Show Profile Send kcarring a Private Message  Reply with Quote
wow you guys are good LOL damn, I'm no Houdini.

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Magneticitist
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USA
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Posted - October 28 2012 :  03:17:50  Show Profile  Visit Magneticitist's Homepage Send Magneticitist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
well im so dismissive of it because before i actually understood how magnetism and electricity was really related i tried a bunch of silly stuff like that. i saw some drawings of magical coils that took in free energy but none of it actually worked surprise surprise

the point is though, i know we are not supposed to just automatically dismiss what is "not supposed to work", but when you are presenting your device in a way where you are attempting to provide evidence and measurements of how it is not a hoax, you should be open to criticism to your poor technique in a show of proof. since that is an overly simple setup that most anyone would assume is fake because of the obvious logic that someone would have figured that out by now, the show of proof should be extra-ordinary, which in this case was not and we were able to provide at least one plausible way it was faked.



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TinMan
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Posted - October 28 2012 :  10:04:20  Show Profile Send TinMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lol-yea was a preaty easy one to pick--to easy to replicate.
But the funny thing is-many people tried it out non the less lol.

SO how about some video's that are much harder to pick out the fake bit.



swim at 90 degrees to the current and gain speed in two directions

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TinMan
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Posted - October 28 2012 :  10:05:38  Show Profile Send TinMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Infact i have a wonderful idea lol
Stay tuned.

swim at 90 degrees to the current and gain speed in two directions

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Kudzu
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USA
1619 Posts

Posted - October 28 2012 :  19:33:54  Show Profile Send Kudzu a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wouldn't High Voltage Transmission Power lines overhead cause that effect ?

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TinMan
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Posted - October 29 2012 :  07:42:45  Show Profile Send TinMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh forget my wonderful idea-seems CW came up with it first-bugga

swim at 90 degrees to the current and gain speed in two directions

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ron_o
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United Kingdom
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Posted - October 29 2012 :  16:30:03  Show Profile Send ron_o a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Kudzu

Firstly overhead power cables are AC ( motor used is DC only ) and secondly if the RF field was that strong i personally would not want to hang around making a video , lol

ron
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Kudzu
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USA
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Posted - October 29 2012 :  21:00:04  Show Profile Send Kudzu a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey Ron,
Yeah I know overhead lines are AC but, all you should need is a couple of diode's and it should make DC ... Just thinking , LOL

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Magneticitist
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USA
681 Posts

Posted - October 29 2012 :  21:25:36  Show Profile  Visit Magneticitist's Homepage Send Magneticitist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
im sure some people would be able to get some type of voltage reading around HV transmission lines or maybe power a small LED but as far as enough current to drive that motor i agree i would be hesitant to even stand there.

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JUSTA-Lectrician
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USA
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Posted - November 04 2012 :  13:27:46  Show Profile Send JUSTA-Lectrician a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Huh, I came in on this topic to see if it had any merit, because the title could fit MY OWN device.

The coil is about a million times too small!

When I saw that puny coil, I thought FAKE! lolZ

AMPS-R-YOU,

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Edited by - JUSTA-Lectrician on November 04 2012 13:31:45
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JUSTA-Lectrician
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USA
6 Posts

Posted - November 04 2012 :  13:30:28  Show Profile Send JUSTA-Lectrician a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kudzu

Wouldn't High Voltage Transmission Power lines overhead cause that effect ?

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I still think the only dumb questions are the one's you didn't ask ...

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"Throughout space there is energy ...
It it a mere question of time when man will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheelwork of Nature" Nicola Tesla




YES. It's like a big air-core transformer.
It is also called "stealing electricity"

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kcarring
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Canada
1057 Posts

Posted - November 04 2012 :  23:39:59  Show Profile Send kcarring a Private Message  Reply with Quote
@Mag

Quote:

"but as far as enough current to drive that motor i agree i would be hesitant to even stand there."

You and me have both stood around worse LOL come on man if you can light a fluoro off of metal objects in a room around a Slayer...

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Magneticitist
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USA
681 Posts

Posted - November 05 2012 :  13:29:23  Show Profile  Visit Magneticitist's Homepage Send Magneticitist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i cant say thats the same thing though.. i dont feel danger around my big slayer exciter but if i was standing under a huge 60hz or so transmission line and i could run a dc motor off a coil THAT small, i would start getting freaked out. that would have been some raw power he was getting there lol, no caps no nothing just a low turn coil and motor.

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Magneticitist
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USA
681 Posts

Posted - November 05 2012 :  13:29:50  Show Profile  Visit Magneticitist's Homepage Send Magneticitist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
then i again i bet slider could look at that video and be like "pssh.. done that already" haha

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Kudzu
Administrator



USA
1619 Posts

Posted - November 05 2012 :  20:10:20  Show Profile Send Kudzu a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey JustAnElectrician,
Yeah, to get very many amp's I think it would require a dipole ...
As far as stealing the power goes , it's not my video , LOL

I do know the big line's going over the lake around here feeding power from the hydro Dam's , You can feel the charge in the air .

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I still think the only dumb questions are the one's you didn't ask ...

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"Throughout space there is energy ...
It it a mere question of time when man will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheelwork of Nature" Nicola Tesla
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