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49er
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Posted - September 03 2012 :  17:02:38  Show Profile Send 49er a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi All

SD3T came up with this video and I relay liked it may be because WE have snow where I live and I know ST has some so his stores should have some in stock. There simple to build and would make a great addition to a solar bank. They should be cheep as well so have at it and enjoy.

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Posted - September 11 2012 :  01:24:43  Show Profile Send TinMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi 49er
I was thinking of something along the same lines, but using half 44 gallon drums instead
Are these setups more efficient than a standard wind turbine?

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Kultus
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Posted - September 11 2012 :  01:41:32  Show Profile  Visit Kultus's Homepage Send Kultus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't know if they are anymore efficient, but a lot more simple, Standard blade turbines needsa tail for directional rotation, one of these so long as it is balanced they will accept wind from any direction in thinking that they may well be a more efficient device as like where I live now, the wind direction can change a lot between breaths, this type would not have to turn it's self around to face head on the new direction of wind 2-3 times a min, it already is facing the right way...

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TinMan
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Posted - September 11 2012 :  08:08:14  Show Profile Send TinMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Kultus
I was thinking that it would also be an advantage,as you only need the diameter of the drum's as far as space go's. Then it's just up from there-maybe 3 or 4 drums high?.Ofcourse one would need a good solid frame and drive shaft.
Then on the bottom of the shaft we could gear up ,and use a car altinator-or one of those smart drive washing machine motors as a generator(there 3 phase)

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TinMan
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Posted - September 12 2012 :  00:31:55  Show Profile Send TinMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks SD
I think I might make a small one this weekend, and see how it go's

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49er
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Posted - September 12 2012 :  18:13:02  Show Profile Send 49er a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi TM

This style is not a better mouse trap it is just a more simple one and cheaper. I you buy a 200 watt motor in Ebay for 13 to 15 $$ you could build the hole thing for less than 100.00 (GUESS) I want to build one just to find out.

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TinMan
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Posted - September 16 2012 :  07:27:27  Show Profile Send TinMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Doug
I started on the frame this weekend.
I have an altinator setup out of a motor cycle-seems perfect for the job.
It will put out 6 amps at only 800rpm-so thats not to bad,although i will have to gear it up a bit.
I have cut a plastic 44 gallon drum in half,and im thinking that a 100mm overlap would direct the wind from one half of a drum into the other half?--just thinking of the most efficient way to do it.
What i like about this design ,is that it dosnt matter which direction the wind is comeing from.And not so many moveing part's--and no slip rings needed.
So just a small one to start with,and if that works ok then we will go bigger lol.

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49er
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Posted - September 17 2012 :  10:28:01  Show Profile Send 49er a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi TM

I agree 100% about it is simple and no slip ring is the best way to go. This is why I like it so much it is simple. I will also be making one with a 200 watt dc motor and snow shovels. Looking forward to your setup and see how that works with the Alt.

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49er
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Posted - August 28 2013 :  10:49:46  Show Profile Send 49er a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi All

This will be the start of the Snow shovel wind gen. I now have the base from the VAWG that Steve built and it will make a good starting point. The brgs are there so all I need is the elect conduit and box the 200 watt gen I will get from one of my old machines. The shovels are next and this is what I have found on Ebay.

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I like this one because if I leave the handles collapsed it will be stronger.

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This one the shovel looks larger but the handle probably will need to be reinforced.

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I like this one the best alum handle and biggest scoop of the three.

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msmjr
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Posted - August 29 2013 :  05:35:37  Show Profile Send msmjr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey Doug
I like the deeper pocket on the 3rd one the best. Most of the vertical ones I've looked at resemble an airplane wing with a catch pocket on the inside edge, much like your PVC blade. Also you mentioned in the other thread that changing the wind angle helped the speed. Maybe pitch the blades on a 40deg angle. I've been working on a design for myself but life has been way to full so far this year.

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49er
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Posted - August 29 2013 :  08:56:18  Show Profile Send 49er a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi msm

I like it to I think I will order them next week.

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olddawgsrule
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Posted - August 29 2013 :  18:08:59  Show Profile  Visit olddawgsrule's Homepage Send olddawgsrule a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I love the concept and the involment here!
Lies right in my mind of thinking.
Build it cheap, build it simple and make it work!
Go Guys!!

Looking forward to the results!

My 2 cents in the effort.. and my best result attempting something close..

Hinging of the blades to reduce lee-side restriction
Close to reduce lee-side, open to increase/capture windward
Really won't take much action to obtain gain..

Then again, the system is just too cool not to do as is!






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49er
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USA
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Posted - August 30 2013 :  15:14:49  Show Profile Send 49er a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi ODR

Thanks I think this may be a group effort??

Doug
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olddawgsrule
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Posted - August 30 2013 :  16:33:46  Show Profile  Visit olddawgsrule's Homepage Send olddawgsrule a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I just dug this out of the 'dead' pile.


It's there because my low level winds are awful and I've concentrated on my high level wind.
It went through soo many variations it would be a book to talk about.

Larger main scoops, to many smaller, coverings and hinging..
Hinging I really liked...

This project is just too cool not to rule!

Go Guys!
I'll help where I can!





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49er
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Posted - September 14 2013 :  11:02:11  Show Profile Send 49er a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi All

Well I just ordered the snow shovels from Ebay. Still will have to get new pillow blocks 3/4". This is what I purchased

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49er
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Posted - September 21 2013 :  09:41:51  Show Profile Send 49er a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi All

Just received my shovels today so I can start the build.

Doug
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IrishDave
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Posted - September 22 2013 :  07:44:58  Show Profile Send IrishDave a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Doug.

I was only talking about this last night with a friend who is interested in building one.
Looking forward to following your progress.
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49er
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USA
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Posted - September 27 2013 :  20:44:10  Show Profile Send 49er a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi All

Here is the start of the snow shovel gen. project. One of the first things was to get the shovels and see what size handel,about 1 1/8" ID. Went to the store to buy 1" elect conduit and found that I was to use EMT and that is very thin. So I took back all the elect conduit which was like real pipe LOL and went with what they tell you. This was the first hurdle to jump it is 3/4" EMT is .920" and the shovel is 1.123" which is much to sloppy so at this point I made a spacer and it took 4 hrs of work but at least I know what it looks like and I went to the store on a scrounge hunt and I came up with a good fix. PVC coupler 1/2 X 1/2" and just drill out the ID to 15/64" and it is snug on the pipe.



Now things are moving along better I have the out door box on a pole and the four arms on and with the PVC couplers (2) per arm.





Next is put JB WELD on all joints and that will be done tomorrow. Need to get from Ebay 2- 1" pillow blocks and they should be here soon.

More later had a very busy day.

Doug
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49er
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Posted - September 29 2013 :  11:26:19  Show Profile Send 49er a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi All

I got the pillow blocks yesterday and will go to the work shop after the sprint race today.



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