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TinMan
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Posted - August 29 2012 :  19:21:53  Show Profile Send TinMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well i get a mention in this vidio-although not such a good one.
I guess that is what you get when you ask questions.



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Anothercoilgun
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Posted - August 29 2012 :  21:46:53  Show Profile Send Anothercoilgun a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Like they always say, bad publicity is good publicity.

Still do not understand how something as simple as the initial and final voltage of the capacitor to show "joules" in will not be divulged.

1/2 * F * V^2 is such a simple thing and had such a simple number been shown from day one more people would be behind as opposed to the people now being on the side tossing stones.

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TinMan
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Posted - August 30 2012 :  00:45:01  Show Profile Send TinMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am supprised that no one has actualy pick up on what I was really up to- but I have a feeling a couple of people here will see what my plan was
All so far just assume I was just calling bob a fraud- but fail to take into account what happened after my first comment
All I will say is that it turned out better than I had hoped

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Magneticitist
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Posted - August 30 2012 :  01:00:28  Show Profile  Visit Magneticitist's Homepage Send Magneticitist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
hell i dont see how what he showed was anything other than cool and interesting.. it was nowhere near a video "proof" as he seemed to allude to by having no "editing".

if i was to just visually guess what i was looking at without first being shown the popper, i would just assume this guy was showing what it looks like when you pulse air from a compressor through some tubes to bounce a piston, and simultaneously discharge a HV from a cap through a motor with the open relay doing the switching sitting right underneath the piston, for whatever reason.

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Kultus
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Australia
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Posted - August 30 2012 :  01:07:12  Show Profile  Visit Kultus's Homepage Send Kultus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I still want to know why if the Chamber was under vacuum did he have to press in the plungers on the syringes ?? I have asked him this on his latest video "Tinman's an asshole" I think the title was :D Hahahaha sorry had too... lets see if he can give me good reason for this ... cause I am doubtful there is one, the plunger should have moved in by it's self if the chamber it was being applied to was under a vacuum..... Or did I miss something in physics class ?

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msmjr
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Posted - August 30 2012 :  01:13:47  Show Profile Send msmjr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
WoW TM
I think you hurt his widdle feelings, it really got his hackles up. He must be be taking a lot of flak to get that defensive.
Its funny though that he singled you out and that he needed to prove himself to you.
He also has to understand, we see so much trash from people trying to convince us they have something special (and they dont) or that they want in our pockets. Its not unreasonable to expect him to take a few extra minutes to explain what the hell we are seeing. Rule of thumb, Nothing to hide? dont EDIT.

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TinMan
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Posted - August 30 2012 :  06:27:32  Show Profile Send TinMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi msn
He never had to answer to me,as i was always a believer that this could work.
Dose his or johns system work well enough to have more energy output than input?-well i guess time will tell. Johns setup-no way.
But take a look at this vidio of Bobs-popping away one after the other.So what is powering the machine-as there is no time for a refuel?

Watch the one called-for wes.I have shifted it to this section,as i believe this one has hope.

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TinMan
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Posted - August 30 2012 :  07:15:33  Show Profile Send TinMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kultus-lol The vidio-tinmans an asshole lol.
Well you would know as well as i do that aussie's realy dont care what we are called-as long as it gets the job done lol.
I think it has a good ring to it lol--Tinmans an asshole lol--with the American cowboy accent of course lol.
Do you think it would make a good movie?
But all jokes aside-it was the best way i could think of to get bob to do a non edited vidio-to eliminate the posability that he could be simply chargeing the cylender with HHO between take's--i think it worked a treat-very quick result.
But now i recomend that you all watch the vidio i posted just above(for wes)there is no way he can refuel that fast.
For the time being-he has my respect and i trust in what he is doing.

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Magneticitist
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Posted - August 30 2012 :  13:50:40  Show Profile  Visit Magneticitist's Homepage Send Magneticitist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
watching the video a spectator asked a question regarding the electric input sources and it was verified that there is indeed a pulse of current induced from one source to create the high voltage spark, followed by a consecutive pulse of lower voltage higher current from an additional source, or maybe the same source.. but there are two pulses of current per piston movement. the timing is not important only the gas mixture and voltages being applied to the chamber.

so does anyone know the actual amount of watts per pulse being fed into the chamber?
until knowing that I can only wonder how how many watts in a pulse it would take to jump the same cylinder via a very high voltage/current capacitor discharge. also, how does one actually create a kV potential then run a lower voltage across it at the "same time"? it looks like a huge capacitor bang without the chamber present. so how does he get his discharge to simulate the sound of a cap discharging? or is that what it is, somehow a high farad low voltage cap that is somehow discharging across the path created by the HV spark?

being able to see something new and exciting is one thing. but the next step is practicality and it seems very important to figure out if we are just now able to create a new formula for energy conversion or if this form of conversion can actually yield overunity, or the second best of being much much more efficient than anything else we have out there currently.

the principle does bring a couple things to mind though. i've had led's explode on me like bullets from low input

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TinMan
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Posted - September 03 2012 :  17:43:15  Show Profile Send TinMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Russ shows why the plunger on the seringe dosnt suck in when placed in a vacume.


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The_Architect
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Posted - January 13 2013 :  11:39:26  Show Profile  Visit The_Architect's Homepage Send The_Architect a Private Message  Reply with Quote
did that guy remove his video or his whole youtube channel?

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screaminvern
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USA
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Posted - February 27 2013 :  07:43:43  Show Profile Send screaminvern a Private Message  Reply with Quote
OK, I've been playing around with the "crystal battery" idea and I have to say it is fun to mess with. Here is a couple of links I ran across at another forum that deals with the crystal type energy generation. I like to think that this is a hopeful but what do you guys think?
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