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 The Importance Of Carbon In The Gray Tube
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Jerry Volland
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Posted - June 08 2017 :  18:47:30  Show Profile Send Jerry Volland a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Gray Tube is one of the most remarkable inventions of the 20th century. This device converts a hv potential into a non-clasical form of energy which not only is conductive but which can 'pump' a heavy current from a lv source into a capacitor - almost instantly. As the charge in the capacitor increases, so does its voltage. This voltage increases without limit, until the battery is disconnected, or the capacitor blows up.

Before developing this Tube, Ed Gray used a series of starter solenoid relays to break the circuit, providing enough gap distance to quench both the lv and the hv potentials. With this Tube's circuit, he used a rotary gap having a hot connection followed quickly by a grounded electrode. This shifted the stretching spark to ground, away from the Tube's circuit. To further limit the 'instant charging' effect, a carbon resistor was also included in the lv circuit. For a specific application, using an exact amount of power, the resistor could be included permanently inside the Nitrogen filled Tube. Or, a variable resistor could be placed externally, in series with the Tube. As a further precaution, TVS diode #46 was included to protect the capacitor from overcharge.

Gray's 80 hp electric motor used a capacitor bank which required four seconds to charge, from the hv supply. Once in operation, the bank charged and discharged 200 times per second.

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Jerry Volland
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Posted - June 08 2017 :  20:29:32  Show Profile Send Jerry Volland a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nikola Tesla was the one who discovered how to combine lv amps with hv potential, but decided to keep it secret. Later, his assistant at the time, Andrei Poppoff, met Ed Gray, in 1958. Since Gray was an electrical experimenter, Poppoff show him how to "split the positive", to create the non-classical energy.

Gray claimed he understood lightning and was fascinated by radar, to the extent that "pulse out, pulse back" was one of his favorite sayings. In fact, a newspaper article I read back in the 70's quoted Gray as explaining that he sent a radar pulse through the motor, and when it reflected back, he put the energy back into the battery. (What he was actually doing was using the return pulse to recharge a second battery, switching the batteries when the active one ran down. etc.)

When Internet forums appeared, Gray's Tube became the focus of a considerable amount of discussion and speculation. And there was also misdirection, misinformation, and outright suppression. As a result, most people don't have a clue as to what it does or how it works.

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massive
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Posted - June 16 2017 :  17:55:35  Show Profile Send massive a Private Message  Reply with Quote
there was mention that some of his components resurfaced in surplus/junk shops! if this is true , who knows . maybe his stuff was stolen and dumped ,distributed in a shot gun method so all parts are scattered around OR maybe some fakery was used to sell parts said to be his missing parts . still interesting how theres energy in the spark and only a few know how to utilise it or if it is the trigger , which makes more sense . V moves electrons
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Jerry Volland
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Posted - June 22 2017 :  15:17:28  Show Profile Send Jerry Volland a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by massive

there was mention that some of his components resurfaced in surplus/junk shops! if this is true , who knows . maybe his stuff was stolen and dumped ,distributed in a shot gun method so all parts are scattered around OR maybe some fakery was used to sell parts said to be his missing parts .


Several of his motors have surfaced. One YouTube video does a good job of showing the various components. Especially visible is the 'instant charging' capacitor bank. Also, the "one way energy path" diode is an Ignitron. This particular model is spected as being suitable for commutation, meaning it has a anode tied grid. This diode is wired with the cathode pointing at the battery, as shown in the patent. The tube can handle a pulse of 200,000 Amps, so good luck using a semiconductor. (Especially when considering secondary electron emission within the mercury vapor inside the diode, as opposed to interstitial secondary electrons in a crystal.)

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still interesting how theres energy in the spark and only a few know how to utilise it or if it is the trigger , which makes more sense . V moves electrons


There are areas in the motor where there are blocks of plastic positioned to interact with similar blocks on the armature, to form large volume plasma channels. These channels are quickly filled with plasma through an ion cascade process. This plasma contains a large number of mobile electrons, and these electrons are entrained by the split positive potential as it sweeps through the conductive medium of the plasma. A pulse forming technique causes the spark to become a self generating discharge, with a measured output of 250 times the input energy.


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Jerry Volland
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Posted - June 23 2017 :  20:35:29  Show Profile Send Jerry Volland a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here's a test shot I made using the split positive energy, showing co-spiraling entangled potentials forming a shooting spark whose time frame lasted for two shutter clicks on the camera:



The spark continues to co-spiral after it changes direction, leaving some amount of static energy (pulled from the original plasma) at the vertex. In the Gray Tube, this static energy goes to the grids, and will be stronger due to the heavy current from the battery.


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Edited by - Jerry Volland on June 23 2017 20:41:52
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massive
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Posted - June 25 2017 :  06:03:53  Show Profile Send massive a Private Message  Reply with Quote
so a residual voltage continues to draw electron flow ? and thats just a thought
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Jerry Volland
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USA
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Posted - September 04 2017 :  18:53:05  Show Profile Send Jerry Volland a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This split positive energy is actually diamagnetic electricity. Experiments and videos have shown that diamagnetic energy repels both ferromagnetic substances and their associated type of energy. But, in this case, like attracts like, so the diamagnetic co-spiraling potentials attract the diamagnetic plasma. The plasma moves to the center of the field and travels along with it, forming an arc beam.

And if we write it as B++ it becomes obvious that it only takes two batteries to "split the positive". (The thing which takes three batteries is splitting the arc.)

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Edited by - Jerry Volland on September 04 2017 19:13:59
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