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Posted - October 10 2016 :  09:23:13  Show Profile Send blackjok3r a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey guys. I have no experience with these systems personally. I am a mechanic by trade and the two old mechanics at my workplace have been messing around with these systems for years.

I have seen personally a system installed on a Mitsubishi astron 2.6L carb fed engine that was made out of PVC tubes and electrodes running straight off 12v. This system reduced emissions out of the tail pipe to zero on the gas sniffer that they use to tune carb engines. The mechanic who built it said it did reduce his fuel bill by a bit but it was not worth using it all the time and the system was left disconnected in his ute until he removed it to sell the car.

The big boss has used a kit of the internet that also just runs on 12v and installed it into a v8 BA ford fairlane. This system has not affected his fuel economy without a custom tune and then we have too many variables to make a call. Simply switching to 98octane fuel and increasing timing has probably accounted for the gains he is seeing.

I have been reading and watching a fair few videos on this site, and also recently heard about Stanly Myer's water car which I assume is the same principle here. As I understand it you are using very high voltages at specific frequencies to produce much much more HHO than a pure 12v electrolysis system can.

I have a few questions about these system's, to work out whether it will be worth me investing large amounts of time on one.

1. Do you need to have specific amounts of HHO injected for a specific amount of fuel?
2. Will injecting the wrong amount cause damage to an engine?
3. As HHO improves combustion efficiency does this equal a greater octane rating? Like when you use straight LPG injected as liquid to cool down the combustion chamber.
4. Has anyone used these systems on a turbo charged petrol engine?

I have a Nissan Patrol I am building on a very tight budget that is powered by a high compression RB30 with a stage 2 CAM and a ported polished head. It will be running a T3 turbo set to about 10psi and should be reaching full boost by 2000rpm and hit rev limiter at 6000rpm. I won't go into exact specifics of how and why I have done this, but its made of stuff I had laying around and could scab up for cheap or free. It will simply be the greatest ever Mad Max car.

Sorry for waffling, had a new bub last night and only had 2h sleep in 36h. Any input of my above questions would be great. Look forward to hanging out on this forum to see what I can learn from you guys. Love playing with stuff and making things people say cannot be made.

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Posted - October 10 2016 :  11:57:22  Show Profile Send 49er a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi blackjok3r

In short No it will not hurt your engine but it does help with emissions also turbo diesel have used this with no problems.

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Posted - October 10 2016 :  22:47:06  Show Profile Send blackjok3r a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cool, so if I chuck some HHO into the intake and just see what happens I'm not gonna pop my engine. Thats good to know. I think once the thing is going I will defiantly be trying this out. I guess if the HHO isn't sufficient under boost It doesn't really matter as I am mainly going for highway economy for long distance driving. When using maximum power range won't really be an issue.
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Posted - January 25 2017 :  18:41:43  Show Profile Send massive a Private Message  Reply with Quote
some where in NSW I think , thorpe machine engineering has a falcon 6 cyl on simple set up
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Posted - January 26 2018 :  13:30:17  Show Profile Send kcarring a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Biggest threat is corrosion to an intake manifolds made of magnesium our alloy. In fair weather climates... condition your hho gen before using it in your vehicle. That way your catalyst is already in your drycell. Then run distilled water in your tank. This is course does not wirk where freezing temps are of concern

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