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fan1701
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Posted - December 28 2011 :  13:21:38  Show Profile Send fan1701 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This guy has many great vids on youtube. Most of you I think already are subscribed to this guy. I don't think he is too worried about the COP of his motors......



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Magneticitist
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Posted - December 30 2011 :  00:18:37  Show Profile  Visit Magneticitist's Homepage Send Magneticitist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
^yea i like his vids..

i like how he says the caps just "took a dump" lol

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twally67
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Posted - December 30 2011 :  16:34:56  Show Profile Send twally67 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
the only thing i cant figure out is how or what the circuit he is using to make the cap dump.....

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Magneticitist
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Posted - December 30 2011 :  17:56:33  Show Profile  Visit Magneticitist's Homepage Send Magneticitist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
^^ exactly dude.. i was looking into that earlier today and couldnt see what he was using.. all i saw was a transistor didnt see any 555 or anything so i dont know...

whatever it was it looked effective as hell at the very end.. when i use mine the dumps hardly make much of an impact as far as raising the voltage, it just skips up and right back down, looked like his dumps were going in there pretty good.. although as most setups it did also look like there wasnt very much getting dumped.. looks like a good 20v or so stays in the cap at all times.

if i could figure out what he was using id give it another shot

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fan1701
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Posted - December 30 2011 :  21:39:06  Show Profile Send fan1701 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would like to have that dump circuit too. I want to do something similar with the 3pole kit but have yet to sit down and work it all out. I need to quit being so lazy and build some stuff. I'd bet he would share the circuit if we asked him. He is quite friendly.

al

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Edited by - fan1701 on December 30 2011 21:39:24
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Magneticitist
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Posted - December 30 2011 :  22:33:58  Show Profile  Visit Magneticitist's Homepage Send Magneticitist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
haha damn dude i didnt even think about just asking him, good point. and i hear ya about being lazy. im constantly like "ok dude its about to go down" and will have like 3 projects in front of me but they end up just sitting there while i watch cops on tv lol. for a while i had no tv and it was productive as hell for me i need to throw that sucker away or better yet gut it for parts.

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Ice_Viper220
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Posted - January 27 2012 :  17:31:02  Show Profile Send Ice_Viper220 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey guys this is somthing i have been looking into as well but i still have yet to get a good circuit up and running for the cap dumps if i find somthing i will be sure to post
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fan1701
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Posted - January 27 2012 :  17:56:13  Show Profile Send fan1701 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Ice. I have basically made two copies of the R-charge cap dump circuit that uses a 2n3055, bridge, and a cap. The trigger is a crude contact switch attached to my 3PM accessory gear. I lost the reeds I ordered from Rick. I turned my work area upside down. I think I hid them from myself to keep me from loosing them Its not a hard circuit. I will try to draw it out when I get a chance.

al

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Ice_Viper220
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Posted - January 27 2012 :  20:16:17  Show Profile Send Ice_Viper220 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey Fan,
That would be awesome I have a few pretty big caps I would like to play with for a nice big boom to the battery dose it matter if it is an AC or DC cap as I have both but my AC caps are far larger than my DC caps, also would the cap dump work with a self oscillating circuit as there is no Spinny thing(lol Tinman)
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twally67
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Posted - January 27 2012 :  21:53:01  Show Profile Send twally67 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
here is what i found on the SCR cap pulser...


here is the suggestion i hope you can see the setup in your head....

Capacitor discharge via SCR

Roamer, a sharp radiant fan, sugested to use simply a cheap rubber wheel with cam and contact brass strips driven directly off the SG shaft. He also mentioned in replacement of the above to use a 6V zener 1 watt diode with a 100 #8486; resistor in between the positive 1000uF 330V photo cap and the 25A 800V SCR gate.
I played around with the setup some, getting the zener with a 500#8486; resister to dump the caps at 26 and 30V. Then I tried it with a resistance of 2.2K#8486;, well...not only was it dumping my 1200uF bank (above) between 60 and 70V through the SCR but the RPM of the SSG was in tune snorting with the cycle and so was the resitance lamp flashing while the volt needle showed every dump very dramatically whereas the amp meter indicated from 0.600 to 1.5A charging rate. It was a nice little exercise but of corse no good. By the way I had used the battery cover.
With the 100#8486; resister it worked the best between 23 and 24V and between a 300 and 600mA with a steady charging rate of 8 sec. per 100V digit hooked to two 1000 amp batteries.
If you are not quite sure what I am writing about, then look at Image 12 where you you'll see in between the cap bank and the SCR a IN4008 diode soldered to the copper bar connected to a 330#8486; resistor onto the SCR gate. Replace the IN4008 with a 6V 1 watt zener diode pointing the silver ribbon of the zener towards the copper bar and replace the 330 with a 100ohm resister.

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i hope this helps?????
here is a pic i made up to show the diagram



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fan1701
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Posted - January 27 2012 :  22:46:52  Show Profile Send fan1701 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi guys. Here is the circuit I use.



hope this helps.

al

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fan1701
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Posted - January 27 2012 :  23:50:32  Show Profile Send fan1701 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Ice. I forgot to answer the rest. Use the DC caps. Yes, it will work with SS systems. You will need a timer circuit or scr to dump. If you use a 2n3055 be careful the voltage out of a pulse motor go high really fast. I have trashed some by accidentally letting the voltage go up too much.

al

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Edited by - fan1701 on January 27 2012 23:52:25
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ccass15n
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Posted - January 28 2012 :  00:13:52  Show Profile Send ccass15n a Private Message  Reply with Quote
here is the circuit that came with my 3pole kit and the product numbers in case you all wanted to know what parts are being used, the reed switch didnt come with a code on it so idk what value it has



i got rid of this set up though because of how it was pulsing.. the 3pole pulser kit just simply takes the collected charge from the cap and dumps it right back into the run battery **** while the run battery is still being used in the ciruit **** i didnt like this idea and didnt really see any good results from it, so instead i got rid of the reed switch, put in a relay, and hooked it up to an arduino board that would pulse my relay for me, this is the circuit i use and am still trying to get my timing just right



for the relay i used an Standard:RY116:12volt relay out of car,

numbers 30 and 87a are normally connected and operate the ssg circuit
86 and 85 is connected to my arduino board, which the board will then create a pulse; energizing the relay coil, make the switch from 30 - 87a to 30 - 87
87 is connected to my capacitor so whenever 30 - 87 is connected the cap will dump into my run battery while the run battery is not currently "On" (being used by the ssg circuit)

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49er
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Posted - February 25 2012 :  13:22:32  Show Profile Send 49er a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi All

This is a very good under standing of what goes on in a charge battery with a pulse circuit.

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