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The_Architect
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Posted - February 12 2013 :  22:55:10  Show Profile  Visit The_Architect's Homepage Send The_Architect a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just wondering if anyone has had any personal experience with this subject.

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I am working with a friend who is very into gardening and growing plants of any type, only person I know that got a really good crop of tobacco to grow here in Oklahoma his first time to try growing the plant ever. He is still working on his house but he designed it, to allow him to grow trees indoors, so the plan is to get some seeds of these sorts, and grow a test batch indoors *since we aren't in the tropics and they will not survive out side here* and try cross breeding them with a number of other tree types to come up with a new breed that both produces this sap that can be used as biodiesel, and will grow in a more diverse array of climates. If he succeeds there, I know him well enough that he will not stop experimenting, and will probably try to find a breed or modification that puts out a sap that is more stable for storage over longer periods of time before use, and maybe some saps for other uses like making organic plastics and such :) I will post more as we gather more data on it.

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Kultus
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Posted - February 13 2013 :  02:42:43  Show Profile  Visit Kultus's Homepage Send Kultus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
it might sound silly and I know stuff all about cross breeding trees so weather it can be done is another thing, but a Gum tree might be what he wants to try and cross it with, they are very hardy will grow anywhere from rain forest to desert and already produces a good amount of oil in it's leaves ... just a thought

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The_Architect
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Posted - February 13 2013 :  23:57:24  Show Profile  Visit The_Architect's Homepage Send The_Architect a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Does not sound silly to me. I will keep it in mind, along with a number of other options. I do not foresee a future though where the plants will be needed for fuel, but rather to help with production of many of the plastics we need, once we solve the energy issues, cause the plastics we get from petrol will start going away when the petrol runs out of the easy to process stuff and we are left with that ridiculously hard to process stuff, that leaves very little useful good stuff behind, and take a far longer to process.

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screaminvern
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Posted - February 14 2013 :  13:40:06  Show Profile Send screaminvern a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey guys, interesting stuff as I'm starting an Environmental Technologies course in the fall which includes biofuels and hydrogen.

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kcarring
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Posted - February 14 2013 :  13:58:26  Show Profile Send kcarring a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i foresee a day where we are "mining" our garbage dumps for plastics

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The_Architect
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Posted - February 15 2013 :  04:08:30  Show Profile  Visit The_Architect's Homepage Send The_Architect a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kcarring

i foresee a day where we are "mining" our garbage dumps for plastics

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I do too, I know that I have a solar cooker designed to do the break down to make plastics into fuel level (shorter) carbon chained molecules that would be still easy to burn or provide lubricity, and have a host of ideas on how to use it to upscale carbon chains from molecules that come out of waste plant and animal matter, like the oil you see at fast food chains, or the grass clippings and cardboard boxes you toss out, Though I can also see this being useful to make solid graphite out of that stuff too, for making battery level electrical storage capacitors as well.

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