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TinMan
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Posted - August 24 2012 :  09:59:51  Show Profile Send TinMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I will start the ball rolling.
This is one to avoid-as the excuses and lies keep comeing about his technology.
The keshe technology
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TinMan
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Posted - August 24 2012 :  10:06:14  Show Profile Send TinMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here is another .John has never shown a working device,and keeps delaying a working modle being shown.
The engin design itself will never hold up to any long period of running-if it ran at all.
Sterling Allen-that was promoting this system,has done a back flip and deem'd it as a no goer.
This is reguarding there noble gas engin.Although they have taken a lot of money from people that have aquired licences-they refuse to show a working engin-even to those that have bought a licence to build them---RED light guys
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Magneticitist
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Posted - August 24 2012 :  12:57:46  Show Profile  Visit Magneticitist's Homepage Send Magneticitist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
most of us already know this from TJ's little dilemma lol

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Magneticitist
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Posted - August 24 2012 :  12:59:49  Show Profile  Visit Magneticitist's Homepage Send Magneticitist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
these guys are almost so obviously frauds they need no explanation.

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TimberJack
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Posted - August 24 2012 :  16:48:31  Show Profile Send TimberJack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
LOL TM,

Another section...o.O
If you keep this up i`ll have to bloody scroll down like 10 minutes to get the bottom of the forum...lmao

Yes, theres alot of weed out there...non smokable weed that is...lol

Try not to use to much energy on them bro...;-)

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TinMan
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Posted - August 24 2012 :  19:25:42  Show Profile Send TinMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lol-nothing like people turning up here on IAEC,and going --wow look at all this stuff lol
As far as spending energy on the listed above-they no longer have my attention lol-more frre time lol.

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TimberJack
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Posted - August 24 2012 :  19:30:54  Show Profile Send TimberJack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
LOL,
Btw mate...i think you just better add this page here to the list and i think you got them all in one shot...lmao...
Its a longgg scroll to reach the bottom...^^
If its to much to digest just delete it...lol

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TinMan
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Posted - August 24 2012 :  19:48:46  Show Profile Send TinMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes that mob just pinched a lot of everyone elses work and made a web site with the preaty pictures.
All in all-there just pulse motors-good old bedini style-nothing special

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Magneticitist
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Posted - August 25 2012 :  11:25:37  Show Profile  Visit Magneticitist's Homepage Send Magneticitist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
^ that page sure is fun to look at though.
and it still leaves the questions of whether or not to label certain people as scammers or not..

muller.. was his motor a fraud? was Romero also a complete fraud including all who made successful replications? of certain known youtube replicators who were at the final stages of their replications and shared excellent results, why did none of them show their final results, with all pieces in place and full output potential?

how about Bedini? although clearly much of his work seems to claim the usage of a battery to charge a larger bank of batteries, this premise seemed to ride off the magical theory that because there is more voltage gained at the output, there is also more power.
Doug Konzen seemed to make some pretty awesome motors using this concept but not actually admitting to more output power.. simply recognizing that a motor could be ran, and a secondary battery could capture "wasted" energy to be reused to further drive the motor.

if that is truly the case with Bedini creations, then why claims of overunity? did his larger ferris wheel device TRULY have a gain albeit a small one? unlike other devices, his has the unique angle of claiming the gained energy is via the chemical reactions within the charging battery. if there is truly something behind that, then what is the concept of the ferris wheel? if an actual gain can be measured from the dynamo action then that is a totally separate concept than the actual battery chemicals showing overunity.

as for the magnetic motors that appear to contain nothing but capacitors and magnets, that seem to need some type of strong switched start because of an inherent magnetic torque.. why has there been at least several of these similar devices worldwide? is there actually something to that?? of the demonstrations shown to the public and later dis-assemblies, were those all clever hoaxes? still.. I do not know.

what about Steven Marks TPU? a physicist has to automatically assume he was a scammer.. but how did he pull off the hoax? were those present to disassemble his devices also in on the scams? if batteries in a cluster that size are able to power what he was powering, would that not be a good discovery in itself? If i could pack a ring of lithiums together and run a 100 watt bulb for a long period of time before the battery died, that would be something I would use for a light all the time lol.


and lastly, just a question of mine.. how do these investors through history truly get scammed so hard by these scammers? it's the same story.. a guy supposedly has a great invention, gives a demo to some investors and gets them to shell out funding. later they realize it was all a scam because nothing ever comes to fruition. Well thats a good story.. but at the same time how do these investors becomes so wealthy making *Not So Smart* decisions?
how are they so easily tricked? surely they must encounter trickery all the time.. So why not pay a physicist or engineer, or even a whole team of them to accompany you to a demonstration to verify its validity before you decide to shell out thousands of dollars toward its funding. Also, how does a person that is so clever to create such magnificent hoaxes not understand what is going to happen to them once they are "caught"? surely in a court of law when you are having the pants sued off of you, the cliche excuse of the shadow government stole your stuff is not going to work for you.

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TinMan
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Posted - August 25 2012 :  20:52:49  Show Profile Send TinMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The TPU needs some explaining?.Even if there is just batterys hooked up in series,you would only get the amp hours of one battery.There is no way that a small battery with say 1/2 amp hour would power the devices that he was powering with his device??
So that one is open in my book-unless some one can tell me how it was done.
John christie was paid a lot of money by our government for his generator for remote military operations.Now what government would pay money for something that dosnt work??

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Anothercoilgun
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Posted - August 26 2012 :  13:13:46  Show Profile Send Anothercoilgun a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Magneticitist

most of us already know this from TJ's little dilemma lol

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Took me 2 seconds at hojomotor.com to see they were a scam. Sorry if anybody here got took.

Unfortunately yet thankfully I acquired a third eye for website energy scammers. Just a few things I instantly take notice of. If I list anymore, I will have to CHARGE for it and become one of them
Large bold green fonts on website and books. Large arrows pointing to a link. Most times the entire website is just one long page as in one .html file with no links to other .html files. An image of a house with an obscure angle or whatever the product is to make it exaggerated looking. Musical background on the website the second you enter. Very large buy now or add to cart button. Always I and mean ALWAYS :) a large book or box full of colors, bold green glowing font on the book or box of course, positioned to the right side of the screen. next to the large add to cart buy now button. Not just green color but the word GREEN written everywhere. And to top it off, the lure of all lures, the golden seal of satisfaction guaranteed.

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Magneticitist
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Posted - August 26 2012 :  13:25:32  Show Profile  Visit Magneticitist's Homepage Send Magneticitist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i like this little statement on their website "We hate spam and will never send it"

haha


and yea man^^ it does seem like they cater to a specific crowd..
i know what you mean about the style of advertising they use.. it just steers me away.. ridden with bull*Nice*.. that is the same reason im inclined to trash talk peter lindemann and his similar style of advertising.

man people see the patents that are referred to and buy into it immediately.. my thing is, if they are indeed advertising a product that utilizes patents held by someone else, how do they plan on not infringing on patent protection? they state they are in no way affiliated with any other names mentioned.

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TimberJack
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Posted - August 26 2012 :  19:07:52  Show Profile Send TimberJack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That link i posted is a nice reading page, theres are some nice info and lots of pics on it for everyone.
Its a good page to motivate anyone who like to give this FE stuff a go...;-)

At the question whats true or not...well...anyway...

Heres another one...lots of readinf stuff just for the fun of it...^^
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TimberJack
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Posted - August 28 2012 :  13:21:10  Show Profile Send TimberJack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Did i mention these stuff are getting old...and i do mean very very old...=.=
Why should he do a warning video, is it so peeps dont buy that stuff or soon they will say something like...
The whole shop exploded while doing a test run so we cant deliver and wont deliver because they dont want peeps hurting themseef...crappy, crappy and crappy...=.=

But like you said mate, time will tell...

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Kultus
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Posted - August 28 2012 :  18:16:35  Show Profile  Visit Kultus's Homepage Send Kultus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Also if it's in a state of vacuum, why then does he have to push the plunger on the syringe he is loading the fuel with ? plus I think I am more scared of the spring flying out and taking my eye out ..lol

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TinMan
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Posted - August 29 2012 :  09:12:25  Show Profile Send TinMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well just to add some confusion lol
Here is the latest vidio from Bob
Watch the on called-for Wes
Any explinations guys??
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Kudzu
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Posted - August 29 2012 :  09:32:39  Show Profile Send Kudzu a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey Guy's ,
I just wanted to throw in if you reuse syringes several times they get very stiff and hard to plunge after many reuses . I've had several where the plunger stay's stuck in the bottom and popped off the end or are very very difficult to push down and pull up . I'm just saying if all your putting in it is the same gas mix you wouldn't throw it away , you'd reuse it until it was unusable . I don't see that as proof ...

There is a conference video where the popper was taken apart , then evacuated and primed with the gas mix and fired many, many, many, time's ... I don't owe this fellow anything , I'm just saying if one crappy video make's the whole thing a sham , something is wrong ... I for one think there is something to this phenomenon and am looking forward to replacing the internal combustion engine's with it ... I think this guy is on the level although he does seem to have interest to protect though and for those investors to get there money back he's got to keep protecting them ,,, Either way , I won't be one of the people that throw's a stone one way or another ... If he's that good at fooling folk's up close and personal as many that's been shown this in person he's got to be the world's greatest magician . I'm just gonna take the fellow at his word till there is actual proof other than a crappy video !


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TinMan
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Posted - August 29 2012 :  10:38:10  Show Profile Send TinMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well at this point in time-i think bob is on the level-but brother john is pancaked.
Bob sent me an email lol.


Tin Man - I am going to put up a totally unedited version´╗┐ of this just to please you. I will call it Plasmerg Popper Warning Unedited.

I removed your comment because I'm sick of hearing about my terrible dispute with Dr. John. You don't know the story so butt out in this regard please.

I apologize. because I call you an ass in my discussion of why. It's just been one after another lining up to call me a fraud. Except for my website, I 'm going back to invisible next week.

Well i have been called worse lol.
But reguardless of this lol-i think Bob is on the level.

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pcmagnut
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Posted - September 22 2012 :  11:22:02  Show Profile Send pcmagnut a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey Guy
I really do think there are two other people ought to be on this list and I wont put their names unless
Everyone here thinks its cool???? They belong to a certain other forum???
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TinMan
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Posted - September 22 2012 :  22:53:10  Show Profile Send TinMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lol pc
But let's leave them out.There doing a good job of destroying there own reputation lol.
No need to name them,as most of us here already know.

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Anothercoilgun
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Posted - September 26 2012 :  22:11:19  Show Profile Send Anothercoilgun a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have viewed the You must be logged in to see this link. web page and full website for a while now. Please do not waste your time going there but if you must I warn you to make no effort in trying to piece together what your eyes are going to see. Just as I noticed the first time I read, even now, who ever updates the site has a very strong defensive disorder. The current childlike gripe at inteligentry is against Sterling Allen and the Smartscarecrow show about a simplistic comment made for the delays of inteligentry's engine. The site lashes out at whoever has a critism just like a cat jumps up at anything you toss pass its view. Shock value. They have a webpage dedicated to lash out at any critism called the HOT SEAT. Disturbing.


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kcarring
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Posted - September 27 2012 :  00:30:58  Show Profile Send kcarring a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TinMan

Lol pc
But let's leave them out.There doing a good job of destroying there own reputation lol. No need to name them,as most of us here already know.



If it is who I'm thinking of, your statement is sensible, but you know what... it is that degree of "allowed notoriety" that seems to continue the onslaught of newcomers into their net. That "net" is widening, and so is the marketing plan behind it. It's almost like "It's not nice to knock them". The odd guy like Sterling, Mark Dansie, ZFF, Mathew Jones - they come right out and say "No, there's nothing there", but other than that, everyone just "accepts" the balderdash.

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TinMan
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Posted - September 27 2012 :  01:09:22  Show Profile Send TinMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well CW and vesper-oops did I just mention names lol
Anyway- there latest is they have worked out how to send the backEMF back to the run battery- which they claim JB said was inposable?
I seem to remember doing that over a year ago on teep
The single battery ssg circuit
So I have no idea as to why it took them so long to work out how to do it- and claim it was there brain storm???

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msmjr
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Posted - September 27 2012 :  06:33:03  Show Profile Send msmjr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey TM
Thats how long it took then to figure out you were right. LOL

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pcmagnut
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Posted - September 27 2012 :  10:12:52  Show Profile Send pcmagnut a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi guys
Ahhhh finally the names thank you.
I hate to be that way but what they have done is dispicable and what they are trying to do is worse.
Thanks guys
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TimberJack
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Posted - September 27 2012 :  15:45:51  Show Profile Send TimberJack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
LOL, give them two some slacks...
They are only trying to make a few honest $$$...;-)
With all them years of experience and knowing it all in the FE field something or someone got to give...lol

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TinMan
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Posted - September 28 2012 :  06:05:42  Show Profile Send TinMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Quote-LOL, give them two some slacks...
Funny you should use that word-slacks TJ,as in Australia slacks are pants women wear LMAO.

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TimberJack
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Posted - September 28 2012 :  10:10:49  Show Profile Send TimberJack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
LMAO...haha..
"in Australia slacks are pants women wear....that is funny mate...lol


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Posted - November 08 2012 :  17:12:26  Show Profile Send EnergyFabricator a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think any device claiming 'high efficiency' must be able to do it on a scale that is grand enough to carry conviction ie. high output power. There should also be public demonstrations with clear indication of input power and output power - preferrably DC! I am wary of anyone who builds a device and does not make an attempt to show input vs output power. As a builder/experimenter, this is the first thing I measure during testing!
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TinMan
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Posted - November 09 2012 :  08:25:01  Show Profile Send TinMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi EF
Good to have you aboard.
And i couldnt agree more with your comment.

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screaminvern
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Ok, this starts out as "Motorcycle runs on pure water" and ends up being some secret mixture and process...



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Anothercoilgun
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Today is December 11th BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All our problems melt away by world saving !!!TeChnOloGY!!!

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Kultus
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this little twat has nothing so I made a video on it ... lol ... mind the naughty words you might hear from me today ... there's quite a few ....

This guy lifehack2012 has had a series of videos on youtube "claiming" free energy ... well I took a deep look at that today ... here's my video

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Anothercoilgun
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Posted - December 15 2012 :  19:12:56  Show Profile Send Anothercoilgun a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Good exposure Kultus!

Red Lights (2012). A good movie about exposing.

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I agree with Anothercoilgun

"Good exposure Kultus!"

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