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gotoluc
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Posted - November 15 2013 :  18:11:29  Show Profile Send gotoluc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi everyone,

today is my 52nd birthday and I've decided to share the most promising research I have found to date.

For quite some time I've been studying the effects of reactive power using all kinds of circuit configurations.
The circuit that seems to have the most promising results is a Transformer and capacitor combination.
At this time I'm using a Microwave Oven Transformer (aka MOT)
I'm sure there are even better suited transformers but of all the transformers I had on hand at this time a MOT is giving me the best results and I will share more on the details in the next post.

Don't assume this is common information, since it's not!... I have search the internet and youtube and no one has shared the results that I'm about to give. Also, I've been sharing my results with Gyula (in case I miss something) he is a well respected researcher.
He also could not find anything on the net of what I'm about to share. Gyula was also quite surprised of the results of the test as he thought the opposite would happen.
I'm sure this isn't a new discovery!... and most likely is the operating principle of many OU devices you have seen in videos or been hearing about.
However, those who have found this effect are not sharing and are probably of the same mindset as 99% of the world's population and think to make profit first rather than helping those how have much less than them let alone thinking of helping our environment.

I have always promised myself to share all so here it is.
I only ask one thing from you and it's not difficult to do. If after viewing my video demonstration you see no value to what I share then please move on and don't bother wasting another minute of your time.
If you don't understand what is being shared! that's not a problem but I ask you stay in the background and keep looking at the updates and look at the posts of those who do understand and are willing to participate in developing this to its full potential.
In time it may come clear to you and possibly a list of the exact parts and where to buy them once a device is perfected.
If you can't build anything that's also not a problem as someone may offer a built device for you to buy. There's room for everyone but please lets keep this topic clean.

Also, please note, I make no claims of OU... all I suggest is by using certain values of electrical components (which usually cause losses) adjusting and connecting them in a certain way, one could remove the Lenz effect on a load connected to a generator. Also, by using such a circuit on the input (prime mover) one could also reduce the input power by 50% (as demonstrated in my video) or up to 100% if you can develop a circuit that would make a better phase shift then my circuit used in test 1 video demo
If this does not attract you please move on and don't waste your time watching this 30 minute video.
As far as I know this is the first ever video demonstration with an explanation of the benefits of a reactive power load on a generator.
Also, I'm not hiding anything in a box! all is in the open and details given.

Link to video demo: You must be logged in to see this link.

In the next post I'll include some more details on the effect of using a MOT and capacitors and include some scope shots of test 1 video.

Luc

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gotoluc
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Posted - November 15 2013 :  18:12:45  Show Profile Send gotoluc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Below you will find the scope shots of the video demonstration.

An oscilloscope is needed to experiment with reactive power as without it you would be working in the dark.
On the low voltage side of MOT primary you will need a Series Capacitor. It can be many different values of AC Capacitors capable of 220vac which you connect in parallel to make the value you need to get the best current and phase shift (90 degrees is ideal).
You should have many cap values from 1uf to 60uf to combine them to find the ideal value plus or minus 1uf.
I suggest starting around 20uf on 220v MOT's and 40uf on 120v MOT's
Please note that even if you combine caps together to get a certain uf value, that Capacitor bank will be connected in Series to the MOT primary.
For the high voltage side of the MOT you will need many HV 2000vac rated caps of small uf values like .22uf or even smaller as small changes make big differences between the secondary and primary. You can even get good results by shorting the secondary as it's self capacitance maybe enough. So maybe Bifilar winding could also be looked at as a secondary which could have its own self capacitance and require no external caps. But like I say you can just try it shorted at first or attach a resistive load if you're using it as output. Also, best to use high resistance between 300 to 1000 ohms. Each MOT has it's ideal load to get max power out and keeping phase at ideal position.

Tuning to be most efficiency like 0 watts input with10 watts out (which I've done) you will need a perfect 90 degrees phase shift.
It's not easy to do, since as as soon as you connect a load be it Inductive or Resistive our friend Lenz wants to come for a visit. Mostly when it's Inductive!

Now for the microwave oven transformer (MOT)
Why a MOT?... well, it can work with other transformers but my best test results so far was a transformer with a high Impedance secondary (many turns), so naturally a MOT is better suited for this.
I think one could improve over a MOT by maybe using a Utility Line Step Down Transformer which is what could be on Valy's looped generator video (on side close to motor)? don't know if its a large capacitor or a transformer?

See for yourself, here's the link to Valy's looped generator video: You must be logged in to see this link.

These large utility transformers are designed to step down 7000, 14000 or more Volts AC to 220vac, so it may work better then a MOT? and should be able to maintain very large quantities of reactive magnetic flux within the core which should result in maintaining a next to perfect phase shift when a load (motor) is connected to the low impedance side. But again this would needs to be tested.
Please note that what maybe hidden in Valy box (secret to make the device work) could be a high voltage AC capacitor connected to the HV secondary of the utility transformer and its low voltage coil connected between the 600vac PM generator and the induction motor. Once he gets it started and flips the switch the induction motor run capacitor is probably used as the primary capacitor.
I also could be wrong and the box maybe a transformer and capacitors of a welder as I have seen a few videos on YT that when a welder is operated it stops the utility meter and even makes it turn backwards:

See for yourself, link to video: You must be logged in to see this link.

Anyways, all this needs to be tested to find the best setup

In my Reactive Generator test 1 video what prevented me to further drop the 50 watts used by the induction motor was the limit of my variac voltage output.
I know that may not make sense to you but when you experiment with this you may understand.
To achieve a lower power consumption I would need to get a better phase shift (closer to 90 degrees) and the way to do this would be to reduce the capacitance uf value on the series primary cap bank. However, that action will cause a reaction, so to maintain the induction motor speed I would have to raise the voltage of my variac but I was close to max at 150vac.
Don't be fooled! ... there's better result to be had. I decided to keep it simple by using a standard variac. The potential of what this could become is what is inportant.
Once you start experimenting and get positive results you will better understand the potential. But I'll tell you, it's not as easy as I make it look in my video. It will take time to master this beast.

The other thing I've not mentioned is about the two MOT's I'm using in the video. They are from South Africa, so 220vac. I brought them back to Canada over a year ago because I was working on a reactive battery charger (this is how this all started) and since the Primaries are for 220vac they would have more turns and possibly a higher Inductance then our 120vac version.
My experiments have confirmed that a MOT with a higher Inductance primary requires a lower series capacitance value for the same amount of real power on the load to secondary compared to the 120vac MOT which needs double the cap uf value for the same output. So possibly less capacitive energy in the primary = less current being wasted in the transformer core as heat caused by eddy currents. I could feel the difference of heat between the two when I tested the 220v vs the 120v.
My best score so far on a reactive load on the output of the generator is around 20 Watts without the generator loosing RPM and raising the power requirement to the prime mover.
I chose not to demonstrate this in test 1 video as the you need 3600 RPM for the alternator to output 120vac and thought it was more important to demonstrate the effect of reactive power on the input prime mover (motor) then only a higher output power as I would needed much more voltage (as mentioned above) to get close to the RPM the alternator needs to output 120vac.
However, if it would make you happy to see a reactive circuit connected to the output producing 20 watts at no cost to the grid input, then I can upload a video demo for your entertainment.


This is just the beginning as I'm sure with all of us working together we can develop this to a much greater potential. Also note that this could be used on so many applications like a car alternator producing power for HHO production at no cost (load) to engine.
I also think a solid state version (no moving parts) could be possible.
The application possibilities are endless.

To think that everyone trained in electrical or electronics for the past 100 years have been told that reactive power is not useful is hard to believe!... could this be so? am I dreaming?

For the next few weeks I may not be available to answer posts as I have to complete a job to make a little $ to keep living. So I encourage you not to post other than your experiment results in order to keep this topic clean and easy to understand for the new comers.

All the best with your experiments and please share as I have.
If you steal this thinking of self gain you will not gain anything and failed the test of what it is to be a true being of light.

Love all Serve all

Luc

Non Reactive and No Load


Non Reactive and Load


Reactive Output Load


Reactive Output Load and Reactive Input

Edited by - gotoluc on November 15 2013 18:26:12
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TinMan
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Posted - November 16 2013 :  23:48:21  Show Profile Send TinMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Luc
Happy B/day,and all the best.
I was hopeing you would start a post here on this setup of yours.
I am actualy going to try this out,but use a DC motor to drive the generator-which will also be smaller than yours.
Could you post a schematic here,so as others that wish to,can throw one together.

Also,how much load can you put on the reactive output?

swim at 90 degrees to the current and gain speed in two directions

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gotoluc
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Canada
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Posted - November 17 2013 :  01:06:04  Show Profile Send gotoluc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
See below post

Edited by - gotoluc on November 17 2013 09:54:50
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gotoluc
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Posted - November 17 2013 :  09:53:45  Show Profile Send gotoluc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
People are getting confused at other forums, so before it starts here I'll explain why I made the video demo that way. I will also recommend to first start with the below simple test and circuit diagram.

Trying to replicate my demo video is too difficult to start with. I made the video that way to prove that the circuit is not fooling the power meter since it does not cause a Lenz effect to a generator and also to demonstrate it has potential to looping a generator.

Start with these instructions and circuit for your first test.

The induction motor circuit is very difficult to tune if you have no prior experience with reactive power tuning. I would recommend people to start with the below test as you use the grid and a plug-in watts meter to first learn. This way you will see results fast since I worked out most of this.

Start with a 25 watt 1k Ohm load on the secondary but no caps for now. Then start with about a 10uf Series cap on the primary and connect it to grid. Reduce or raise (if needed) the cap uf value until your power meter is at about 1 watt. Then check your voltage on the 1K Ohm load and do the math. You should have more power out than in.

After that test, reduce your load resistor by 100 or 200 Ohms at a time and you will see you can add uf value to your primary and still stay at zero watts in. And If you raise the Ohms resistor your cap will need to be less to maintain zero watts.

You will find the ideal resistor and cap value which give you most watts out for zero watts in and you will find that each MOT is different.

After you get the hang of it you can then try working with the other circuit diagram below is you want to do tests to eventually detach from the grid (looped generator).
However, your generator will need to supply a higher voltage potential then 120 or 220 volts It also takes a lot of time to tune to ideal levels.

All the best with your experiments and please share your results

Luc



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TinMan
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Posted - November 20 2013 :  14:47:59  Show Profile Send TinMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Luc's latest comment on his video--Been offered to work on developing this tech so won't be posting anything more for a while.
You must be logged in to see this link.

So it seems that we wont be hearing from Luc for a while.
Im hopeing he continues with his house boat build video's,as i enjoyed watching them.

Some things you guys that wish to experiment with this setup is-
1-reactive power is created using energy-it is not free.
2-Reactive power is also known as wattless power,meaning watt meters will not show the power being used,as they are designed to read active power,or real power as its some times refered to.

Quote: The unit for all forms of power is the watt (symbol: W), but this unit is generally reserved for real power. Apparent power is conventionally expressed in volt-amperes (VA) since it is the product of rms voltage and rms current. The unit for reactive power is expressed as var, which stands for volt-ampere reactive. Since reactive power transfers no net energy to the load, it is sometimes called "wattless" power. It does, however, serve an important function in electrical grids.

So apon testing the above circuit involving the MOT pluged into mains power,then tuned with caps to throw the current/voltage phase out by 90*,i was able to get my watt meter to read zero,while there was an 820 ohm load on the MOT secondary.
But celerbrations where short lived when the watt meter was replaced with a rms amp meter across our CSR,and a rms volt meter across the transformer.We still have voltage and current flowing???.

So why is no reflection shown on the generator when Luc switches on his reactive power unit that is disipating 3 watts of power across his 1k ohm resistor?..
Well the answer is quite simple,and if Luc decides to try it,he will see this him self.
The generator is already slightly loaded befor he switches his reactive power unit on.Inside those generators is an exciter winding that has a cap across it. These caps are around 6 to 12uf,and the combination is designed to keep the fields excited while no power is being draw.If you disconect the cap from the exciter windings,you will find that the motor will speed up,and current draw will go down on the electric motor driving the generator.
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swim at 90 degrees to the current and gain speed in two directions

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TinMan
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Posted - January 02 2014 :  16:53:00  Show Profile Send TinMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Guys

I will be doing a little more reserch into this setup of Luc's,with an outlook of looping the system (qmogen setup). I am throwing a setup together at the moment(as time permits)to see where the power is coming from that shows no reflection on the prime mover-as per Lucs video.

Will keep you posted,and link the video's here when i get them done.

swim at 90 degrees to the current and gain speed in two directions

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49er
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Posted - January 02 2014 :  17:18:12  Show Profile Send 49er a Private Message  Reply with Quote
LOL like telling Tesla he couldn't think any more. LOL LOL

Doug
The sky is not the limit...There are footprints on the MOON.
Your only as DUMB as where your standing.
No matter where you go there you are.
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gotoluc
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Posted - January 03 2014 :  12:35:18  Show Profile Send gotoluc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi TinMan and everyone,

you may have read (at OU topic) that I've been saying this circuit is not creating energy. What I think is going on in this circuit is by causing a time delay between the TWO electricity components (voltage & current) you don't destroy the electricity (aka don't kill the dipole) by short circuit like typical everyday circuit we use.
When the electricity components are 90 degrees out of phase they can go through a circuit, do work and come back out with next to no losses if there is minimal resistance in the circuit.
However, you need something to receive the return and store it or convert it to something useful. I think this is what the Alternator Gen is doing. So timing is very important and I'm now starting to think that a permanent magnet alternator gen may not work as well as an exciter rotor field alternator gen like I've been using in my demos and now what TinMan is using.

Let me explain, for the past 3 days I've been busy converting a DC permanent magnet motor to an AC permanent magnet generator. It's a big job but I got it done and I was testing it last night and found the effect is not as obvious or as good as using an exciter field rotor generator.
When my series cap circuit is connected to this PM AC gen it's like something is out of timing!... I see the effect a little but it's like it's kind of having a fight inside the gen, like a motor out of timing. So I'm starting to think that the exciter rotor gen causes more of a delay then a PM gen and it could be this delay that makes the difference in helping the gen rotor to be pushed at the right time when the reactive power is returned.

More tests need to be done but I though I would share this new information.

Luc


Also, at the OU topic, user name nilrehob has been doing a lot of experiments with what I have shared and has prepared 2 pdf documents.
Here is his post:

Hi Luc,

As You requested, since I get little time left for experimentation, I have written a short 3-page pdf about what i call "Reactive Impulse". This will be my next area of research. Maybe You (or someone else) will find this interesting and beat me to implement it.

You must be logged in to see this link.

/Hob

Edited by - gotoluc on January 04 2014 14:13:22
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TinMan
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Posted - January 04 2014 :  10:59:31  Show Profile Send TinMan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here is my first test of the setup. here i look at something that was overlooked by other replicators-that being the power being disipated within the exciter circuit.
But all is not lost,as i believe there may be a 1.8 to 2.3 watt motering action happening within the generator. More testing to be done yet.



swim at 90 degrees to the current and gain speed in two directions

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gotoluc
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Posted - January 04 2014 :  14:07:02  Show Profile Send gotoluc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks TinMan for testing the circuit and pointing to the exciter field as the possible source of the effect. I will perform new tests of this kind to better understand the interaction between these two circuits and post my findings.

Thanks for taking the time to do all this excellent replication and sharing your results.

Luc

Edited by - gotoluc on January 04 2014 14:13:56
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gotoluc
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Posted - January 05 2014 :  15:32:55  Show Profile Send gotoluc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here is something interesting

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gotoluc
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Posted - January 06 2014 :  22:04:11  Show Profile Send gotoluc a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To All,

user name poynt99 (at OU topic) has identified a problem in my scope settings. I had my probes on AC coupling when they should be on DC coupling.

This changes the power numbers close to unity. I will need to re-test and re-tune to see if there is any advantages to the circuit.

Stay tuned for updates

Luc
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