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The_Architect
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Posted - April 11 2013 :  10:07:23  Show Profile  Visit The_Architect's Homepage Send The_Architect a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I had an idea (will not say where I got it or when but Kultus knows what and where ;) )

for converting the static in the atmosphere and providing a way to collect it at a fast enough rate to make it worth while.


here are some crappy pics I scribbled out. When I get done with my new solar improvements and the Tesla bill You must be logged in to see this link. I will try to get to work on this idea a bit, in the mean time anyone who wants to try it out feel free to ask questions that either myself can answer or others who know more about these things than I

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the coil in pic one I would imagine would be possible to put a very long secondary coil with two short primary coils on either end of it, each covering half the coil, and then set up a second electroscope jar (the thing with the "foil" in it) and second set up of capacitors and such, to allow the static to flow from one coil to the cap, then jump to teh second coil on it's way to the earth ground.

the two coils would be wired backwards from each other so that as the power is passing through each it causes the secondary coil to generate power one way, then the other making AC power,

the reason I say all this is that I am guessing about what might well be in the ground under Wardenclyff tower, and that it might be something like this that gave Tesla the chance to charge his Tesla coil off of nothing more than the air. also if this was what he was doing, this would cause pulses of EM to be radiated off that ant, sending power to another ant a distance away, and would cause a feed back loop increasing the power output of both the first and second towers. so the more people who had these on their houses the more power they would obtain at each house. I am guessing if so, that he either was just putting together a station to kickstart the units running in peoples houses (since it would be taller than everyone else's towers on their homes and would bring down static from a layer of air that might be dryer that once radiating into the lower more moist air would overcome the moister in the air and seek out their ant to drain to earth ground providing them with enough power for their homes), or it was a model to show what it could do and prove it to get them installed in homes everywhere.

time for feedback on this idea :)

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Posted - April 11 2013 :  10:13:15  Show Profile  Visit The_Architect's Homepage Send The_Architect a Private Message  Reply with Quote
oh to explain what is going on in pic 2, essentially you have two pieces of metal foil that one is charged positive from the earth ground, and the other is charged negative by the static discharge and build up of the condensers or capacitors, and this causes them to fly apart from themselves and touch in the middle discharging the power that causes the foil to lift so it should then once discharged drop back down breaking the connection again, and the static then starts building up on the ant side and the earth ground drains the new static from teh positive side causing them to be attracted to each other (and the two halfs of themselves being repelled again) repeating the process all over again, each time this happens a pulse is sent through the primary coil to generate a pulse in the secondary coil, the secondary coil can be then hooked up to anything to power it from a fridge to light bulbs or even a Tesla coil circuit (or even an AC to DC converter that will take the voltage and adjust it to properly charge up batteries :) )

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I know many of you are aware of this but it seems worth mentioning to those who might not. "This idea is in the earliest stages, so I am positive there are millions of things that could be done to improve on it, from transistors for the dual electroscope, and resistors to slow and speed up charging of the capacitors, variable capacitors to tune it, you name it."
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Posted - April 11 2013 :  13:09:47  Show Profile  Visit The_Architect's Homepage Send The_Architect a Private Message  Reply with Quote
not sure but I might have already gotten some negative attention over this, cause the site I post my photos on is suddenly down after posting about this

***edit Updating the pics onto facebook and will change the links to direct links to the pics on facebook since I am sure it will be pretty hard to get that site to crash

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Edited by - The_Architect on April 11 2013 13:16:23
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Posted - April 13 2013 :  23:25:15  Show Profile  Visit The_Architect's Homepage Send The_Architect a Private Message  Reply with Quote
seems according to an email I got from the host that someone, reported the three pics by name as being copywritten porn photos HA HA, so essentially what they told me was that they were ignoring any messages related to those images or any of the images I have on the site from now on. and apologized for having to take my site down for nearly a day to go over everything.

here is a video of the modified electroscope, and I added a bit more of a mod to it too that should make construction easier.



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Posted - April 13 2013 :  23:54:25  Show Profile  Visit The_Architect's Homepage Send The_Architect a Private Message  Reply with Quote
come to think of it, if the last idea I had with only one foil folded item in the jar were used and the other direction was just a rigid plate for it to touch, if you reversed the flow I think this would make a diode, not sure. will have to try that, and see if a positive charge on the foil causes it to repel out or not.


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Posted - April 14 2013 :  06:13:09  Show Profile Send IrishDave a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Interesting.

Looks similar to 'Tesla's little secret'
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Posted - April 15 2013 :  15:08:33  Show Profile  Visit The_Architect's Homepage Send The_Architect a Private Message  Reply with Quote
the problem with his idea (if the source of my idea is right) is that when you cross over the dielectric of the static unmoving air both collected on the ground, and in the dry soil ( or even water in ground that has no electrolyte dissolved in it since as the water sinks into it, it will absorb and carry that electrolyte deeper into the ground creating an area of [pure water and silt that will have more resistance to conducting the lower voltage static) then you convert the static into DC power, I am fairly certain that with out the metal conductors on solar cells, they would produce static instead, and if you have a big enough area of them all sitting around being bombarded, you could get a spark to bridge the small gap at some point too.

but DC electricity will not produce more than the one pulse as it starts in that secondary coil. so to get that to work the spark gap needs to be on the other side in between the ground and the collector. which is where the electroscope pulse generator would be in my diagrams :)

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Posted - April 15 2013 :  15:31:42  Show Profile  Visit The_Architect's Homepage Send The_Architect a Private Message  Reply with Quote
oh I should add too that the problem with that idea is that the spark gap is going to take a LOT of voltage to bridge even a tiny gap, and will change with humidity and that is going to change what the transformer is putting out, this should allow a very low voltage to be able to be used and keep it steady and stable in voltage with only the speed that it is pulsing at changing. Consistency is kind of important for some devices like say electronics.

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Posted - April 15 2013 :  15:37:24  Show Profile  Visit The_Architect's Homepage Send The_Architect a Private Message  Reply with Quote
oh and one last post heh heh, I messaged him a bit about the idea here, and sent a link to the video. I hope someone picks this up and tries it soon as the list of work I have is getting longer and longer, and I would hate to see people who could have been using this to save some money, were getting deprived of it due to lack of exposure to the idea. It was given to me, so I hope I can give it away to everyone else :)

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Posted - April 15 2013 :  15:48:01  Show Profile  Visit The_Architect's Homepage Send The_Architect a Private Message  Reply with Quote
oh man, another thought, I am betting that being closer to the ocean (a natural body of grounded water that is SATURATED by electrolytes) must have been important too, and the "Contamination" they say is in the ground around Wardenclyff tower may have been due to Tesla putting an electrolyte into the ground, to replace the electrolytes that were dissolved by falling rain, that as it soaked into the ground or ran off, carried those electrolytes with it then. Any ideas what you could put into the ground to boost the electrolyte levels of ground water with out being toxic? definitely something that will need to be addressed as well as using a magnetic sweeper too for picking up all the dust from falling meteors since most of that stuff is nickel and iron both highly conductive too.

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Posted - April 16 2013 :  17:51:58  Show Profile  Visit The_Architect's Homepage Send The_Architect a Private Message  Reply with Quote
has anyone seen this?


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i forget the inventors name, but it was before tesla's time anyways, he invented an electrostatic generator to turn the static electricity in the atmosphere into energy, he also made it so it would generate it's own static electricity, he took a sheet of copper and formed it into a cylinder about 12 inches tall, then he put a dome or pyramid in the center of the cylinder, from the bottom raising up about 3 inches then protruding from the very center of the cylinder at the top of the dome or tip of the pyramid he put a copper rod sharpened to a needle point, about 1/8 inch round, and made the point even with the top of the cylinder, then in circles spaced an even distance apart, about 1/4 inch from any other needle, he made more rows of sharpened needles each slightly shorter then the previous row, by about a 1/4 inch all the way around the cylinder. when he would direct wind to blow through the cylinder and across all the points, it would generate static electricity he could capture in a capacitor, i think the needles were the positive and the cylinder the negative, it might be the other way around. just a thought, if we could explore this a bit more, or if someone wants to try a replication, all the copper was uninsulated bare copper, the inner set of needles was insulated from the outer cylinder, i believe. hmm it might of been Benjamin Franklin who invented it..

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